Mighty Morphing Reptiles: The Ethics of Selling Chameleon Eggs

Ryan and Mitch are two breeders who I have a long history with. We met on social media when I got started in the hobby in 2015-2016. We have had late-night discussions on all sorts of drama, challenges, and much needed breeder therapy sessions. Mitch was a major sponsor of the panther chameleon local form genetic test. He creates some crazy cool cross-locale and pure locale panther chameleons, and Ryan started a podcast recently but I knew him from his Cap Est project - which is to-date the best I have seen.

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cadi

Cadi is a great YBBB produced by Longshot Chameleons (Bryan Long) with a male from our Arti x Daisy pairing named Cadillac. Her brother, Sideshow, is one of the best we have ever seen, so we are excited to add her to our program and see what she brings!

Kiborin x Maize

This Ambilobe Panther Chameleon pairing was between our male named Kiborin from Blossom x Maitso, and a female we picked up from Brian Stewart, Maize. Maize seems to be throwing everything from a beautiful orange body blue bar to a yellow body blue bar while Kiborin was one of our favorite yellow body blue bars from Blossom. This group has been very vibrant and a few males have had the ability to fire up to to point where their blue bars almost go white!

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Animals at Home: Selling Chameleon Eggs & Other Unethical Breeding Practices

This is a great discussion about our project from an ethical perspective. Dillon over at Animals at Home has created some of the best content on ethical keeping. We were honored to speak with him after he fired an ethical shot across the bow of herpetoculture.

  • Care of the animal comes first - business comes second
  • Over production and a breeder’s responsibility to market their work
  • Egg sales
  • Group raising vs individual-raising
  • Breeding vs flipping
  • Genetics - polygenic traits and selective breeding
  • Wild caught and importation
  • Parasites and captive health management strategies

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Zor

Zor was one of the nicest males we produced with Zozoro and Artalla. He had vibrant yellows and blues. However, we did not keep him long term because of the reds in his face and the small amount of red in his body. We have seen this marking before and it usually indicates more of an orangish yellow long term, not our signature clean yellow body. He was gorgeous though, so we did pair him up once for genetic diversity and to see if we can clean that up in the next gen.

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Avana

Avana has some great Kammerflage Kreations lineage from her sire, Zozoro, and her dam, Artalla. All of her brothers had yellow bodies and a few had deep blue bars. It will be a lot of fun to prove her out with Zandrin - hoping for those blue bars!

Zozoro x Artalla

This pairing was between our only female from Arti x Alla, and our male from Kammerflage Kreations, Zozoro. Zozoro brings some nice yellow and blue. His yellow settled into a lime green at rest and his bars were more baby blue than royal blue. Whereas Arti had some great deep blue bars and bit less yellow in the body. This has a lot of Kammerflage on each side of the lineage and it is unrelated to our main line.

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Ralph x Mainty

This pairing was between our forth generation hold back, Ralph, and our female from Nature’s Van Gogh, Mainty. Mainty has a few rainbow brothers and a few RBBB brothers, so it will be fun to see which side she brings here. We paired Mainty with Kosmo after she had an infertile clutch after Ralph. We will probably not keep any of these wonderful animals because of our long-term plans for Mainty.

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Zandrin x Mara

This pairing was between our female Mara from Chi-town Chameleons, and our 4th gen male, Zandrin. Zandrin was our favorite YBBB from Nugget and Mara brings the WC Legion line into our project via Nova. If we can get a HB that looks remotely similar to Zandrin x Nova, we will be super excited about this line :)

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Manjaka x Noko

This pairing was between our female from Nugget x Loko, and our male from Colorado Chameleons, F1 Manjaka. Manjaka was pretty unassuming as a juvenile, but he became one of our favorite YBBB Ambilobe breeders as an adult. He had an extra blue bar, and yellows were classic Ambilobe. Loko came to us from Chromatic Chameleons and Nugget is our favorite 3rd gen YBBB breeder.

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